Lời Phát Biểu của L.s Lê Công Định trước toà án nhân dân Vc

VCs are able to make even a mule or a mute person to speak.

Those of you who lambast Mr. Đinh, Dr. Hoang, you ain't know nothing yet about Viet Cong's torture tactics.

I am severely disappointed at how despicably little many of you know about Viet Congs and their cruelties.

Once a person has been arrested, anything s/he says has absolutely no value.

Galileo once "swore" that the earth did not revolve around the sun. Did it stop doing so because he said so?

UNDER DURESS, anything the prisoner says, writes, signs, swears, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE.

Jackie's dearest Trần Ca Ca,

You ain't know anything (know nothing is very bad English, okay salem?) either. Mr. TuDoChoVietNam was in Viet cong concentration camps for a bit more than 10 years! He knows what it was all about, his words carry the weight and wisdom of real experiences. Yours? Nothing! Your English is deteriorating somehow?

[QUOTE=Dr_Tran;180832]VCs are able to make even a mule or a mute person to speak.

Those of you who lambast Mr. Đinh, Dr. Hoang, you ain't know nothing yet about Viet Cong's torture tactics.

I am severely disappointed at how despicably little many of you know about Viet Congs and their cruelties.

Once a person has been arrested, anything s/he says has absolutely no value.

Galileo once "swore" that the earth did not revolve around the sun. Did it stop doing so because he said so?

UNDER DURESS, anything the prisoner says, writes, signs, swears, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TonNuJacqueline;180845] Yours? Nothing! Your English is deteriorating somehow?[/QUOTE]

Dear Jackie,
I might challenge Dr Tran in many political and history aspects but I well truly respect his writing in economic field. He has been a leading role of economic topics more than 4 years in many forums in which I am reading.

Dr Tran has impressed me immensely with the ability to analyze , predict and respond to the change of Vietnamese markets. In order for him to achieve that I am sure that he must read and write English as well as Vietnamese flawlessly.

Therefore , you should have avoided pick up the wrong subject English writing but concentrated to Chinese history to challenge him. I think that is only way for you to win the contest against Dr Tran.

[QUOTE=tui xạo;180858]Dear Jackie,
I might challenge Dr Tran in many political and history aspects but I well truly respect his writing in economic field. He has been a leading role of economic topics more than 4 years in many forums in which I am reading.

Dr tran has impressed me immensely with the ability to analyse , predict and respond to the change of Vietnamese markets. In order for him to achieve that I am sure that he must read and write English as well as Vietnamese flawlessly.

Therefore , you should have avoided pick up the wrong subject English writing but concentrate to Chinese history to challenge him. I think that is only way for you to win the contest against Dr Tran.[/QUOTE]

"You ain't know nothing" is an English expression that is meant to emphasize the fact that the other person is profoundly ignorant of the issue at hand.

That is English at native level.

Hi hi hi cái này coi phim Mỹ nghe mấy người da đen nói nhiều lắm.

Chừng nào có cách mạng đây Đại Ca? Cách Mạng Tháng Bảy 2012 hứa lèo rồi, còn Cách Mạng Xuân Nhâm Tỵ thì sao?

[QUOTE=Dr_Tran;180873]"You ain't know nothing" is an English expression that is meant to emphasize the fact that the other person is profoundly ignorant of the issue at hand.

That is English at native level.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dr_Tran;180832]VCs are able to make even a mule or a mute person to speak.

Those of you who lambast Mr. Đinh, Dr. Hoang, you ain't know nothing yet about Viet Cong's torture tactics.

I am severely disappointed at how despicably little many of you know about Viet Congs and their cruelties.

Once a person has been arrested, anything s/he says has absolutely no value.

Galileo once "swore" that the earth did not revolve around the sun. Did it stop doing so because he said so?

UNDER DURESS, anything the prisoner says, writes, signs, swears, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE.[/QUOTE]

Anh Dr_Tran thân mến,
Tôi vừa đồng ý vừa không đồng ý với anh về nhận định trên.
1.- Đồng Ý: Một người nổi tiếng (hình như là Hitler) có nói rằng: Những lời nói của người tù không có giá trị, vì lời nói của họ không xuất phát từ ý thức trong Tự Do, mà do sự cưỡng chế.
2.- Không Đồng Ý: Câu trên chỉ áp dụng cho những con người bình thường. Còn đối với những người đã dấn thân vào con đường tranh đấu, thì bản lãnh, sự can trường, sự chịu đựng là đòi hỏi căn bản. Dĩ nhiên, thể lực con người có giới hạn trong sự chịu đựng, ai vượt lên được sẽ là anh hùng, xứng đáng được tin tưởng, và có thể là lãnh tụ. Mới ra toà, chưa vào các nhà tù để bị hành nhục, mà đã chịu khuất phục thì coi như đã cháy. Nếu bị hành nhục tra tấn thể xác lẫn tinh thần, họ sẽ bán đứng anh em.
3.- Chúng ta thông cảm cho con người bình thường mà giới hạn chịu đựng còn rất thấp. Nhưng bảo LQĐ là anh hùng, thì xin lỗi bạn, bạn quá rộng lượng.
Với tôi, Trần Khải Thanh Thủy, Hùynh Thục Vi, Bùi Minh Hằng và nhiều anh chị em không nhớ tên mới là anh hùng, anh thư.

Bạn sẽ không cho rằng tôi quá nghiệt ngả. Vì bản thân tôi, một người rất bình thường, biết đau, biết sợ, nhưng đã chịu đựng 10 năm tù, gần 2 năm biệt giam, tôi hãnh diện là tôi vẫn đứng vững trước kẻ thù. Bạn tù tôi ở khắp nơi trên trái đất sẽ minh chứng điều này.

[QUOTE=TuDochoVietNam;180887]
Bạn sẽ không cho rằng tôi quá nghiệt ngả. Vì bản thân tôi, một người rất bình thường, biết đau, biết sợ, nhưng đã chịu đựng 10 năm tù, gần 2 năm biệt giam, tôi hãnh diện là tôi vẫn đứng vững trước kẻ thù. Bạn tù tôi ở khắp nơi trên trái đất sẽ minh chứng điều này.[/QUOTE]

Dear TDCVN, you were a soldier, you were and still are a tough man.

LCD was a "thu+ sinh", he couldn't match your toughness.

Plus, he volunteered to work for democracy. He didn't have to.

Many former SVN soldiers, with all due respect, did not volunteer.

VC had nothing to gain by torturing SVN soldiers. But they had a lot to gain by torturing LCD.

Mr. Dinh was smart by surrendering quickly, because he would have to surrender anyway later, if VC wanted him to.

Nobody could endure VC torture. Those females you mentioned were not tortured at all, because VC had nothing to gain from it, because those people had nothing to disclose.

LCD was a much bigger fish. VC decided they had to discredit him, and to do that they would make him wish he could die to escape pain.

He did what a smart person would do under the knife, literally.

In my mind, he's a hero, a very intelligent one.

Those things he said, signed UNDER DURESS have absolutely NO VALUE. They are the same like what Galileo once "swore" about the earth not revolving around the sun.

[QUOTE=Dr_Tran;180902]Dear TDCVN, you were a soldier, you were and still are a tough man.

LCD was a "thu+ sinh", he couldn't match your toughness.

Plus, he volunteered to work for democracy. He didn't have to.

Many former SVN soldiers, with all due respect, did not volunteer.

VC had nothing to gain by torturing SVN soldiers. But they had a lot to gain by torturing LCD.

Mr. Dinh was smart by surrendering quickly, because he would have to surrender anyway later, if VC wanted him to.

Nobody could endure VC torture. Those females you mentioned were not tortured at all, because VC had nothing to gain from it, because those people had nothing to disclose.

LCD was a much bigger fish. VC decided they had to discredit him, and to do that they would make him wish he could die to escape pain.

He did what a smart person would do under the knife, literally.

In my mind, he's a hero, a very intelligent one.

Those things he said, signed UNDER DURESS have absolutely NO VALUE. They are the same like what Galileo once "swore" about the earth not revolving around the sun.[/QUOTE]

You are right , many thanks for sort it out the reasons of differences between two of them.

[B]LCD was a "thu+ sinh", he couldn't match your toughness. [/B]

Dear Trần Ca Ca,

Why is it was? Anh Định is still alive mà?

[QUOTE=Dr_Tran;180902]Dear TDCVN, you were a soldier, you were and still are a tough man.

LCD was a "thu+ sinh", he couldn't match your toughness.

Plus, he volunteered to work for democracy. He didn't have to.

Many former SVN soldiers, with all due respect, did not volunteer.

VC had nothing to gain by torturing SVN soldiers. But they had a lot to gain by torturing LCD.

Mr. Dinh was smart by surrendering quickly, because he would have to surrender anyway later, if VC wanted him to.

Nobody could endure VC torture. Those females you mentioned were not tortured at all, because VC had nothing to gain from it, because those people had nothing to disclose.

LCD was a much bigger fish. VC decided they had to discredit him, and to do that they would make him wish he could die to escape pain.

He did what a smart person would do under the knife, literally.

In my mind, he's a hero, a very intelligent one.

Those things he said, signed UNDER DURESS have absolutely NO VALUE. They are the same like what Galileo once "swore" about the earth not revolving around the sun.[/QUOTE]

hi hi hi tiếng Úc làm nail hả? Tiếng Anh đâu có kỳ cục dầy!

You are right, thank you for pointing out the differences between the two of them.

[QUOTE=tui xạo;180908]You are right , many thanks for sort it out the reasons of differences between two of them.[/QUOTE]

Cái khau của họ đã có sẵn rồi. Trần Ca Ca đâu làm sao mà "sort it out" được?

Sáng sớm, Trần Đại Ca tỉnh dậy, sort out what he wants to wear thì được hén! hi hi hi

Convoluted English! The two of you hi hi hi