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    Huynh Cong 'Nick' Ut took this picture just moments before capturing his iconic image. It shows bombs with a mixture of napalm and white phosphorus jelly and reveals that he moved closer to the village following the blasts

    Bức h́nh này được chụp trước khi cô bé Kim Phúc chạy ra từ khu vực bị dội bom. Cái toà nhà cao cao phía sau đám lửa bom th́ chắc là toà thánh thất Cao Đài như được nói trong bài viết của tg Trần Việt Tŕnh.

    Hoà B́nh Nào cho Việt Nam?
    Trần Việt Tŕnh

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    Một luận điệu khác là “Oanh tạc cơ Việt Nam tấn công nhà dân khiến gia đ́nh Kim Phúc bị nạn”. Điều đó cũng sai. Khi t́nh h́nh quá nguy ngập, bom xăng đặc được dội xuống, cả binh lính VNCH lẫn thường dân đều bị thiệt hại. Do đó, Không quân VNCH mà có đội bom th́ đó cũng chỉ là hành động tự vệ nhắm vào căn cứ ẩn náu của VC chứ không nhắm vào dân. Gia đ́nh Kim Phúc lánh nạn trong thánh thất Cao Đài v́ biết đó là nơi an toàn, sau đó trên đường lộ chạy về phía đơn vị VNCH mới bị lâm nạn. Phi công thấy có lính VC rượt theo đoàn người đang túa ra khỏi thánh thất. Chính gia đ́nh Kim Phúc cầu cứu sự giúp đỡ của chiến binh VNCH, nhờ vậy cô mới được cứu sống...........
    Bức ảnh trên có thể chỉ ra rằng tg TVT đă "nguỵ biện" cho việc dội bom "cẩu thả" của phi công QLVNCH. Một số phóng viên và lính VNCH đang đứng dàn ngang trên đường lộ và đang cùng nh́n về hướng toà thánh thất khi quả bom đang nổ. Có vẻ như mọi người đă biết trước chuyện dội bom vào toà thánh thất nên đứng chờ xem "show". Ngoài ra, "Phi công thấy có lính VC rượt theo đoàn người đang túa ra khỏi thánh thất", nghĩa là phi công có thấy "đoàn người" chạy loạn, không phải VC, nhưng vẫn thả bom lên đầu họ?
    Đá mụ nó chơ, không biết mấy tên phi công này có đang lập ṣng x́ phé như kiểu mấy tên trong pháo đội mà viên sĩ quan chỉ huy Liên Thành gọi để xin bắn yểm trợ nhắm vào Chùa Sư Nữ Cầu Lim không đây?

    Tội nghiệp cho người dân hiền lành cứ tưởng trốn vào toà thánh thất là an toàn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngụy Tặc View Post

    Huynh Cong 'Nick' Ut took this picture just moments before capturing his iconic image. It shows bombs with a mixture of napalm and white phosphorus jelly and reveals that he moved closer to the village following the blasts

    Bức h́nh này được chụp trước khi cô bé Kim Phúc chạy ra từ khu vực bị dội bom. Cái toà nhà cao cao phía sau đám lửa bom th́ chắc là toà thánh thất Cao Đài như được nói trong bài viết của tg Trần Việt Tŕnh.



    Bức ảnh trên có thể chỉ ra rằng tg TVT đă "nguỵ biện" cho việc dội bom "cẩu thả" của phi công QLVNCH. Một số phóng viên và lính VNCH đang đứng dàn ngang trên đường lộ và đang cùng nh́n về hướng toà thánh thất khi quả bom đang nổ. Có vẻ như mọi người đă biết trước chuyện dội bom vào toà thánh thất nên đứng chờ xem "show". Ngoài ra, "Phi công thấy có lính VC rượt theo đoàn người đang túa ra khỏi thánh thất", nghĩa là phi công có thấy "đoàn người" chạy loạn, không phải VC, nhưng vẫn thả bom lên đầu họ?
    Đá mụ nó chơ, không biết mấy tên phi công này có đang lập ṣng x́ phé như kiểu mấy tên trong pháo đội mà viên sĩ quan chỉ huy Liên Thành gọi để xin bắn yểm trợ nhắm vào Chùa Sư Nữ Cầu Lim không đây?

    Tội nghiệp cho người dân hiền lành cứ tưởng trốn vào toà thánh thất là an toàn.
    Đúng là "cẩu thả" haha, chính xác th́ phải xập cái Toà Thánh Cao Đài này rồi . Chính xác hơn nữa th́ phải cho chú Út ít thành món rựa mận Napalm, và mấy chú mũi lơ vác camera kia thành barbecue hoăc hăm bưa gưa rùi , ở đó mà nháy với chụp .

    Nếu tay giặc nái lày mà zở cực kỳ th́ có lẽ lính Mỹ chưa rút về được sớm, v́ sẽ không có em Napalm Girl (v́ cả nhà emm thành than rùi do cái đại cẩu thả thêm chút nữa của giặc nái )th́ dư luận Mỹ chưa chắc bùng lên và , Út Nich và AP chưa chắc đă t́m ra con mồi nào hay hơn .

    Cẩu thả pháo kích bừa băi cố t́nh vào thành phố ( chứ không vào ruộng ) chính là bọn phỏng dế miền lam, và bây giờ th́ có đứa bị vẹm Ba Đ́nh lấy đất đai phải đi ra Cầu Giấy mà khíu kiện ḱa .

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    Bài Thơ bất măn của Thái Bá Tân

    Ballad về một đại đội bị bỏ rơi



    “Tôi mới nghe kể lại

    Một câu chuyện đau ḷng.
    Có thể là chuyện thật,

    Cũng có thể là không.



    Chuyện kể rằng, lần ấy,
    Khi đánh nhau với Tàu,
    Quân ta và quân địch
    Cách nhau một chiếc cầu.


    Bỗng từ trên có lệnh
    Một đại đội xung phong
    Vượt qua cây cầu ấy,
    Sang bờ bên kia sông.


    Thế mà lạ, sau đó,
    Hai bên đang đánh nhau,
    Có lệnh từ trên xuống.
    Lần này lệnh phá cầu!


    Câu chuyện chỉ có thế.
    Một đại đội sang sông,
    Rồi phá cầu, theo lệnh...
    Nghe mà nhói trong ḷng.


    Ừ, mà một đại đội
    Biên chế bao nhiêu người?
    Một trăm, hay năm chục,
    Bị đồng đội bỏ rơi?


    Có thể là chuyện thật,
    Cũng có thể là không.
    Sao ḷng tôi đau nhói,
    Đau nhói măi trong ḷng.


    Ai ra cái lệnh ấy,
    Lệnh quân ta phá cầu,
    Để đồng đội đơn độc
    Giữa ṿng vây quân Tàu?


    Câu chuyện chỉ có thế,
    Dù có thật hay không,
    Nhưng cả một đại đội
    Đă chết bên kia sông.”


    Câu chuyện đánh Trung Quốc phải hy sinh cả một đại đội dưới cái nh́n nhân bản của một nhà thơ th́ người chỉ huy trận chiến năm nào có thể là vô nhân, cam tâm hy sinh đồng đội một cách vội vă để đạt chiến công nhưng dù sao cũng nói lên mức tàn khốc của chiến tranh mà nói theo Nguyễn Duy “ai chiến thắng th́ người dân cũng là ngưởi chiến bại” cả.



    Tôi nghĩ rằng nhà văn nhà thơ mà cứ im măi th́ không đúng. Phải có trách nhiệm của công dân. Tôi chẳng chống phá ǵ đâu thậm chí tôi c̣n ăn lộc của chế độ. - Thái Bá Tân



    Thái Bá Tân không phải bỗng nhiên nhớ tới câu chuyện được kể từ rất lâu về trước. Ông nhắc lại câu chuyện này trong hoàn cảnh đặc biệt khi cuộc biểu t́nh chống Trung Quốc xảy ra trên khắp nước vào ngày Chúa Nhật đầu tiên của tháng Bảy.

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    http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A1i_B%C3%A1_T%C3%A2n

    Thái Bá Tân (sinh năm 1949) là dịch giả, nhà thơ, nhà văn Việt Nam.
    Ông sinh ngày 27 tháng 2, 1949 (63 tuổi) (trong khai sinh ghi năm 1950) tại xă Diễn Lộc, huyện Diễn Châu, tỉnh Nghệ An.Ông sinh ra trong ḍng họ Thái nổi tiếng, ông được coi là hậu duệ của Tao Đàn Phó Nguyên Soái Thái Thuận dưới triều Lê Thánh Tông.Ông từng học Đại học ngoại ngữ Matscova (khoa phiên dịch tiếng Anh) 1967 – 1974. Phiên dịch tiếng Anh và Nga ở Bộ Thủy Sản. Dạy tiếng Anh và văn học Anh tại Đại học Sư phạm ngoại ngữ Hà Nội 1975 – 1978. Sau đó ông về làm biên tập sách tại nhà xuất bản Lao Động, Hội nhà văn. Hiện thuộc biên chế Hội Nhà văn Việt Nam, phó chủ tịch Hội đồng Văn học nước ngoài và ủy viên Ban đối ngoại của hội. Hiện ông đang sống và làm việc tại Hà Nội.
    Đă xuất bản khoảng 70 đầu sách, gồm thơ dịch, truyện ngắn và thơ sáng tác. Hơn hai mươi năm tổ chức lớp học thêm tiếng anh cho sinh viên, với gần 300 người một lớp, rất nhiều thế hệ học sinh, sinh viên đă trưởng thành và thành công từ lớp học tiếng anh này của ông

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mau_Than_68 View Post
    Út Ních , Nick Ut chỉ là dụng cụ của Truyền Thông Mỹ . Chẳng aii muốn quảng cáo cho hắn làm ǵ, nhưng bọn nhà báo Mỹ bọn AP, đài ABC làm rùm beng lên nhân tháng 6 tháng 7 vừa qua cho 40 năm kể từ cái ngày rợp khói Napalm ấy .

    Nếu không có ai nhắc và vạch ra cái cơ hội chủ nghĩa của Út và của bọn Truyền Thông Bất Lương th́ bất công cho các hy sinh của của QLVNCH.

    Quân Mỹ nhờ bức h́nh đó mà rút lui tháo chạy êm đềm ....

    This picture shows the aeroplane that dropped the bomb and the full width shot that went on to [B]help bring an end to the war in Vietnam (sic!!)

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz23ALXSw3C
    Nhiều người đă làm lắm anh MT_68... Nhưng "fighting" với loại này và để làm có hiệu quả hơn là phải sử dụng tiếng Anh trong những môi trường thích hợp... th́ sẽ xứng đáng với công sức/ thời giờ của ḿnh hơn. V́ target readers đa số không biết tiếng Việt. Căi lộn với cán ngố th́ nhiều khi - như chuyện này - chỉ uổng thời giờ quư báu của ḿnh. Thiển ư!

    Thi dụ tôi lên xem trang anh đưa link th́ cái comment này là comment đuợc nhiều người đồng ư nhất (top rated comment). Và nó cho thấy nguời ta/ public "ghét" cái việc này chứ không có ưa & đồng ư đâu. Thời buổi internet, làm mấy thằng nhà báo sob này mất ảnh hưởng nhiều lắm. We own a great thank to whom invent/ build/ develop internet ! Ngày xưa mà nếu có internet, không chừng miền Nam sẽ không bị mất. :p

    ( comment ở dưới chửi mấy thằng truyền thông thiên tả Anh v́ trang này h́nh như là 1 chi nhánh của BBC)

    To young people this must seem like a long time ago but it was not. I am sure there are many here in UK who can remember the never ending news reports everynight from Vietnam. At least the Americans tried to stop the advance of Communisim and the brutal atrocities commited by the VC NVA on their own people. Of course we had a similar scenario in Rhodesia but we abandoned them after they had shown such loyalty to us in World War II. The Great British betrayal; something we are good at.

    - Peter, East Mids, 05/6/2012 10:19
    Last edited by SilverBullet; 12-08-2012 at 04:40 AM.

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    The Fraud Behind The Girl In The Photo

    The Fraud Behind The Girl In The Photo
    Hijacking the history of the Vietnam veteran

    by Ronald N. Timberlake © Copyright January 1999
    All rights reserved.

    Since Veterans Day of 1996, the world has been told of an American who ordered the bombing of the village of Trang Bang, Viet Nam, that resulted in the famous photo of the naked and terrified little girl running toward the Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer.

    It is a heart-wrenching photo, told since 1996 with a heart-wrenching story, but if a picture speaks a thousand words, most of the words now associated with this photo are false or misleading. It is a counterfeit commercial parable to generate maximum donations, and relies not on what actually occurred in 1972, but on dramatic fabrications that appear to have been invented specifically to enhance the impact of the Canadian produced documentary, and increase revenues for certain foundations.

    The photo is an accurate depiction of about 1/500th of a second of the immediate aftermath of an all-Vietnamese accident in an all-Vietnamese fight in June of 1972, and it was originally reported that way.

    Newly manufactured details have changed the perception and altered the reported history of that tragedy. The Canadian documentary crew and the heads of foundations that collect money for themselves created and continue a gross misrepresentation that quickly evolved into a new memory and new history of the event. It is a fraud advanced for profit, and is a lie that continues to be published as late as December of 1998.

    The Girl In The Photo was accidentally burned by her own countrymen, who were fighting her future countrymen. The only American participants of any nature were the journalists who reported the event and made her famous, and the doctors who saved her life. If left to the care of her countrymen, it is unlikely that the little girl would have lived to market forgiveness to anyone, but Americans saved her, and Americans made her famous enough to forgive us for an accident in which no American participated.

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    Give America A Break

    Give America A Break

    November 22, 1963, President John F. Kennedy fell
    The assassin's bullet took his body but his soul stayed
    He left America a legacy of a freedom fighter
    Committed to bringing down evil Communism.
    November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall went down
    Seven years after the Vietnam Veteran Wall went up.

    But November 22, 1999, Oprah Winfrey delivered a bullet
    To our beloved American Vietnam veterans--
    She put Kim Phuc in front of America:
    "I forgive those who caused me the burn.
    My feet were not burned so I could run."
    Yes, Kim, you did run away from Vietnam to Canada.

    Do you know there are 56 Canadians on The Wall,
    You "forgive" the men who died fighting Communists,
    For freedom and liberty for your South Vietnam?
    Please go to Little Saigon and forgive the Skyraider pilot
    Who accidentally dropped the napalm on that sad day,
    Forgive the Vietnamese Communists if you want.

    Tell the Truth, Kim, the Americans saved your life that day
    The South Vietnamese ordered their pilot to drop the bomb,
    The Viet Cong committed atrocities behind the dark smoke
    Which Nick Ut's camera lens could never see;
    Forgiveness means nothing when it is based on lies.
    Give America a break--you and I are just here as Viet refugees!

    Linh Duy Vo
    (The Boy in the Poem)
    November 22, 1999 ©


    http://www.gratitude.org/give_america_a_break.htm

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    THE SHAMEFUL LIES.

    VIETNAM, NEWS ANALYSIS, JULY 24, 1998.
    Responding to our "An Image of War," Maj Ronald Timberlake contrbutes the following article to the Viet Quoc Home Page.

    THE SHAMEFUL LIES.



    I was nineteen years old when I earned Aircraft Commander status flying UH-1 Hueys out of Tay Ninh, and 23 when I was shot during the battle of An Loc. The war I fought, is not the war I have seen on television and in the movies, and is not the war about which so many lies have been written.

    Perhaps no lie hurts quite as badly as the photo of the pretty little girl, running naked and crying toward the camera, after being burned by napalm. That photo is shown almost daily, not just as an example of the horrors of war, but as an example of what America did to the Vietnamese people.

    Many people of the world have been told, and believe, that America actually invaded Vietnam, only to be finally driven out by the Vietnamese people. My wife is Dutch, and that is what she learned and believed.

    That famous photograph has hurt everyone but Communists since the day it was published. It probably did more than any single photo to turn public opinion ever more firmly from supporting the freedom of South Vietnam.

    It has gone so far and been so thoroughly accepted, that Timothy McVeigh recently used that photo to illustrate his writings from prison, complaining that since our country burns little girls like Kim, it is hypocrisy to sentence him to death for the Oklahoma City bombing.

    The photograph, like the one of the general who recently died, is an accurate reflection on film of only 1/500th of a second of that war. One five hundredth of a second....

    What we see in the photo happened. It is the words explaining the photo which have twisted our history, and no one appears to have ever reported the photographer's words, "None of this would have happened if the Communists had stayed in the north."

    Vietnam Insight posted a recent revision of history, a new story of what happened that day near Trang Bang, in June of 1972. On Veterans Day of 1996, the Vietnam Veterans Against The War arranged for Kim Phuc to go to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, to forgive. They gave a script to Jan Scruggs, and he read an introduction saying Kim had been burned by an American ordered air strike.

    Up to that point, no American had ever claimed any involvement in that South Vietnamese Air Force (VNAF) strike. Kim Phucstood in front of the 58,000 names of our dead soldiers, and sweetly offered her forgiveness. A man who had recently become a Methodist minister came forward claiming to have ordered the strike, and accepted Kim Phuc's forgiveness.

    Their meeting has been used to illustrate the Christian tenet of forgiveness, and was claimed to have been a spontaneous act of God. It seems to be a beautiful story, but it is a hurtful and shameful lie. The truth is that the meeting was planned in advance. It was a contrived part of a scheme.

    The man, a captain in a minor staff assignment on a US Army staff of advisors to the South Vietnamese Army (ARVN), had nothing to do with the air strike that burned Kim. His Commanding General, who was a Major General at the time, has stated that even he did not have the authority to do what the minister claimed to have one.

    In ten months of researching the minister's claims, every single officer located from that staff has agreed that the minister could not have done what he claimed.

    Even the Vietnamese pilot who dropped the very bombs that burned Kim Phuc and killed several of his fellow soldiers, has said there were no Americans involved.

    The photographer, Nick Ut, says there were no Americans, as does his boss, the Associated Press Bureau Chief for Vietnam, Richard Pyle.

    As unrealistic as the events appear, with the staff officer claiming to have talked by FM radio to a location 82 kilometers away, the actual statements of all concerned tell us that nothing happened like the minister says it did. And the minister has told several versions of almost every significant portion of the story.

    After the Associated Press and Washington Post ran stories about the miracle of the minister and Kim Phuc in April of 1997, The Baltimore Sun began an investigation the following November. The headline of the December 14, 1997 edition of The Baltimore Sun was, "Veteran's admission to napalm victim a lie."

    Stung by this scoop, the same AP and Post reporters checked sources other than the minister, and their follow-up stories admitted that the minister embellished, overstated and misled.

    For her part in the expansion of this "ministry of forgiveness", you will note that Kim Phuc never actually says that it was Americans who burned her. But the publicity leading up to her appearances always says that an American ordered the attack. The narrators call it an American or American ordered attack. The newspapers are very graphic in telling how the Americans rained fire down on Kim Phuc, and how Kim Phuc ran for her life from an American led attack. One version even said that nerve gas was used on her village.

    With all of that, Kim Phuc is very careful to never say herself that it was NOT Americans who burned her. She never says that the fighting around Trang Bang when she was burned, was all Vietnamese.

    Why? Follow the dollar. Without the guilt of burning the cute little girl who stands before us as a mother, her forgiveness for the act is less endearing. Without the relief and gratitude for that forgiveness, the contributions to the Kim Phuc Foundation are less generous.

    Kim Phuc's "forgiveness" could be sincere. But for her to be touted as a victim of an American or American ordered air strike is a fraud of the first order.

    If she is sincere in her forgiveness, she should publicly forgive Duc, the Vietnamese pilot who accidentally burned her.

    I question whether she will be willing to do that, because once she acknowledges that she was burned by her own countrymen, fighting her future countrymen, with no orders from anyone else, she no longer points the finger of guilt at Americans, with her offer of forgiveness.

    For Kim Phuc's offer of forgiveness is in truth the accusation of guilt.

    We who fought for the freedom of the Vietnamese people have been maligned like no other veterans before us in our own country. I would hope that those for whom we fought, for whom we bled, and for whom we lost trusted friends and our precious childhood, would help in the struggle to correct the lies told about us.

    Ronald N. Timberlake
    Major, US Army (Retired)
    187th AHC Crusader 18 Tay Ninh 68-69
    F Trp, 9th Cav, 1st Cav Div Sabre 20 Bear Cat & Bien Hoa 71-72

    E-mail address; majrontimberlake@wor ldnet.att.net

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    Veteran's admission to napalm victim a lie Minister says he never meant to deceive with 'story of forgiveness'

    Veteran's admission to napalm victim a lie Minister says he never meant to deceive with 'story of forgiveness'
    December 14, 1997|By Tom Bowman | Tom Bowman,SUN NATIONAL STAFF


    WASHINGTON -- She is a grim icon of the Vietnam War: A 9-year-old girl running down a village road, napalm scorching all but her scream, her agony portrayed on the front pages of the world's newspapers.

    At a Veteran's Day ceremony last year in front of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, Kim Phuc said in halting English that if she ever meets the pilot who dropped the bomb she would urge him to join her in working for world peace.

    "I am that man," John Plummer hastily wrote on a scrap of paper that was passed up to her. Minutes later the former Army captain was embracing Phuc, sobbing that he was sorry. Responded Phuc, "I forgive you."

    A heart-rending tale, one that has since gained heavy media attention. But Plummer's part in it isn't true. Neither Plummer nor any other American piloted the plane that day, June 8, 1972. The pilot was a South Vietnamese air force officer.

    Since the ceremony at the Wall, Plummer, a 50-year-old Methodist minister in rural Purcellville, Va., has revised his tale, though continuing to exaggerate it.

    Appearing on ABC'S "Nightline" in June, he told Ted Koppel that he "ordered" the raid on Phuc's village of Trang Bang. An October cover story under his byline in Guideposts, an international religious magazine, referred to "the attack I had called." And in a documentary that aired last month on the Arts & Entertainment Network, he said: "Every time I saw that picture, I said, 'I did that. I'm responsible.' "

    In fact, the North Carolina native flew helicopters, not fixed-wing aircraft of the type that dropped the napalm, though at the time he was in a staff job. Nor did he have the authority to order his own country's planes into action, let alone South Vietnamese aircraft, say his former superiors. Plummer, they say, was a low-level staff officer. The entire operation was run by South Vietnam's military, with Americans playing only an advisory role.

    In an interview at Bethany United Methodist Church, where he is the pastor, Plummer conceded that he was neither the pilot nor the one who ordered the attack. He said he never intended to deceive anyone but was caught up in the emotion at the Wall that day.

    He attributed his later comments -- to "Nightline" and others -- about ordering the attack to "semantics," saying the Guideposts article contained words he did not write. He continues to have a "very real feeling" that he was responsible for the airstrike, he said.

    "I think I could have been misinterpreted, but I did not intentionally misrepresent my role," Plummer said. "When I used the words, I was thinking about the story of Kim and me. All I was thinking about was telling the story of Kim's forgiveness."

    Phuc, living in Toronto and representing Unesco as a goodwill ambassador, did not return repeated messages seeking comment.

    Plummer was miles from the village that day, at the Bien Hoa air base, where -- according to his own records -- he assisted in preparing bombing plans. A captain at the time, he said he relayed coordinates and other data from a field adviser to another American officer, who passed the information on to a South Vietnamese officer, who radioed the flight line to send the bombers into the sky.

    'Very incensed about it'

    Some Vietnam veterans are troubled and bitter by the publicity Plummer has generated in the past year, saying he has injected himself into a searing tragedy as the key player when his role was a minor one. Plummer says he has told his "story of forgiveness" to some 30 veterans, civic and religious groups, as well as numerous reporters, accepting only expenses. He has another half-dozen invitations, with trips planned to Minnesota and Oregon.

    Plummer's story has also heated up an Internet chat group of Vietnam-era helicopter pilots, with some arguing that Plummer is perpetuating a myth that the United States napalmed Kim Phuc -- when in fact it was her own countrymen.

    "I don't mind a ministry of forgiveness, but John's basing it on the fact that he did something he didn't do," said Ron Timberlake, a decorated helicopter pilot in Vietnam who lives in Texas. "He's taking the blame for something that makes Americans and Vietnam veterans look bad."

    Words like "responsible" continue to grate on Vietnam veterans, who say that it is incorrect and furthers a stereotype of Vietnam veterans as killers and maimers of children. "I'm very incensed about it, and a lot of other people are incensed about it," said Robert Witt, a former helicopter pilot who served with the 1st Cavalry Division in Vietnam. "The guy is using this for his own aggrandizement."

    B. G. Burkett, a Dallas stockbroker and Vietnam veteran, has made a second career of unmasking men who claim to be Vietnam veterans or who exaggerate their roles. His book on the issue, "Stolen Valor," co-written with Glenna Whitley, is due out in the spring.

    "You'll see how some guys project themselves into events," said Burkett, who did not previously know about Plummer. "They may have some connection; they know the story."

    (to be continued)

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    Veteran's admission to napalm victim a lie Minister says he never meant to deceive with 'story of forgiveness'

    Veteran's admission to napalm victim a lie Minister says he never meant to deceive with 'story of forgiveness'
    December 14, 1997|By Tom Bowman | Tom Bowman,SUN NATIONAL STAFF
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    Former superiors puzzled

    Plummer's former superiors at the 3rd Regional Assistance Command, which was located outside Saigon and advised South Vietnam's III Corps, said in interviews that they are puzzled by Plummer's description of his role.

    "I think he's stretching things the wrong way. He doesn't order aircraft," said retired Maj. Gen. Niles J. Fulwyler, who in June 1972 was a colonel and the chief of operations, with a staff of 15 that included Plummer. "If he was coordinating anything it was at a damn low level. They're just so many inconsistencies in what he's said."

    The regional U.S. commander at that time, retired Lt. Gen. James F. Hollingsworth, said even he couldn't order Vietnamese planes into the air and described a captain such as Plummer as a "handyman" for Fulwyler, the operations chief. Plummer and others of his rank "would have no authority to order anyone to do anything," Hollingsworth said.

    'I still feel the connection'

    * Plummer wondered aloud in an interview, in which he was alternately testy and defensive, why some are questioning his feelings of responsibility.

    "I felt tremendous remorse that a little girl was hurt in something I was involved in, remote as it may be," said Plummer.

    Asked if he was now agreeing his role had been "remote," as others insist, he replied: "I still feel the connection to what happened there -- because I was involved in the process."

    A few days after the bombing, he said, he saw the picture of Phuc in the armed forces newspaper Stars and Stripes. He realized, he said, that he had made "a terrible gaffe."

    The tragedy haunted him and "ruined my life" for a decade, he said. He drank heavily and saw two marriages crumble. After marrying for a third time, he said, he turned his life around and became more religious, finally leaving a job with a defense contractor for a career in the ministry.

    And as his Jeep Cherokee in front of the stone church attests, his two tours in Vietnam are still very much a part of him. His Virginia tag reads CAVLRY and includes a Bronze Star emblem. The plate's metal border reads "Black Horse 11th U.S. Cavalry," his old helicopter unit. Small metal wings are affixed to the back windshield. "Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association," says the bright yellow bumper sticker.

    'God was orchestrating this'

    Last year, he said, when he and others planned on being at the Wall for Veteran's Day, one of them told Plummer that Kim Phuc would be there.

    "That's when I first began to understand and feel that God was orchestrating this," he said. "After all those years, Kim and I were finally going to be drawn together at the same place at the same time."

    Asked why he wrote "I am that man" on the note, Plummer VTC paused for a long moment, then said: "Maybe I attached myself to the events that day. Maybe I was saying in that note that even though I wasn't the pilot that dropped the bombs, I am responsible for the bombs being there. I was in such a precarious psychological and emotional condition, I guess."

    But Plummer says he only wanted to apologize to Kim for his own role and was not interested in publicizing it. Asked why he then did so, he said that when he told his tale on the Internet and at a Virginia ministers meeting two months after the ceremony, he realized "the power of that story" and how it changed lives and made people forgive.

    "That's why I came forward," he said. "That's why I did 'Nightline.' "

    "The veterans who are upset about this, they focus in on every word I use," he continued. "Since then, I've been very careful about how I use the words."

    And someday he hopes to gain a wider audience for what happened at Trang Bang. "I would like to write a book about forgiveness," he said, "and obviously this story is going to be part of it."

    Pub Date: 12/14/97
    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...-napalm-phuc/2

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